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Is Software-Based Diagnostics
for Equipment Impacting You?
Give Us Your Opinion
Historically, material handling distributors have generated much
of their revenue from service work, which affords higher profit
margins than does the sale of new equipment. Within the service
portfolio, many distributorships service all brands of equipment,
not just those that they sell. The introduction of software-based
diagnostics for equipment which requires distributors to have access
to the unique software for each manufacturer threatens the ability
of distributors to continue their service portolio and impact their
profitability.
What is your opinion? How will the introduction of software-based
diagnostics improve or hurt your business?
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| Member Type: Disitributor Posted: December 17, 2007 |
I would say this is one of the areas where we need to 'think differently'
than we have in the past. The continual updating of the software, and the
number of various cables to connect up, as well as finding service techs
comfortable with what can and cannot be done with the laptop. I think it
also means we must reconsider the value of service techs who are comfortable
and able to work with computers, and we must not only train, but compensate
those techs that can be trusted to properly use computers.
I would like to know how other dealers are handling the need to keep
software current, what procedures are being used to keep the expense down.
I would also love to hear what percentage of the service techs really have
an up-to-date laptop and the cables they need. |
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| Member Type: Disitributor Posted: December 6, 2007 |
As the Service Manager at a multi-line dealer, I don't know where to begin.
It affects the dealers on so many levels. The cost of the hardware, software
and cables is straining the service departments to equip each road tech with
all the proper equipment. There is also the endless hassle of dealing with
the different operating systems and keeping the software updated.
Can you imagine the outcry if every auto manufacturer had different cables,
software and handsets for each different model?
The constant updates to the engine controllers require constant updating of
each laptop. Since the bulk of the work is done in the field, this is quite
a challenge.
A standardized cable would be a great place to start. I would hope that
eventually the manufacturers would get together and decide on a platform,
but I do not see that happening anytime soon. Since the computerized systems
are mandated on IC trucks by the EPA, there isn't much you can do but deal
with it and do the best you can.
Training has always been essential to success in the service business; it
just requires a different kind of training now. |
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| Member Type: Disitributor Posted: December 3, 2007 |
I believe that a generic analyzer is needed for anyone that requests one. This
will allow the customer to choose who he wants to perform service on his lift
truck. The customer is not handcuffed to a weak or underperforming service
provider or dealer in a certain area. |
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Type: Manufacturer Posted:
April 15, 2007 |
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I can see how this trend is a double-edged sword
for distributors. Whichever brand they represent,
that business will be more captive to them. However,
if they are making their living by servicing other
brands, then it could be a negative for them.
...The problem is ensuring that dealers have the
necessary connections, software and technological
tools on their laptops when they attach them to
the equipment. Dealers of other brands may find
servicing the truck more difficult, but it's always
possible. We are now also imposing on our dealers
an obligation to have certified technicians. So
we must also invest in our people to keep up with
the technology that we are building into the equipment.
excerpt
from Paul Laroia, President, Hyster Company,
in Diagnostic Software. To read his full
response, click
here.
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| Member
Type: Manufacturer Posted:
April 15, 2007 |
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Toyota makes its software available to dealers
at no cost. End-user customers who choose to service
their own equipment can attend our schools on
a space-available basis, so they too would be
able to access whatever they need. For a representative
of another lift truck brand, it will be difficult
for them to get the access codes, but we don't
create the software with the intent of excluding
the competition. It comes down to a matter of
being trained on a particular model, which is
a problem with anyone servicing competitive equipment
anyway. ...Any good lift truck manufacturer who
thinks it has a valued piece of equipment is more
concerned with training people to work on it.
Our goal is to have the customer's truck up and
running in the shortest time possible, so we try
to eliminate as many hurdles as we can. ...
excerpt
from Cary Howie, Technical Services Manager,
Toyota Material Handling, U.S.A. in Diagnostic
Software. To read his full response, click
here.
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Type: Manufacturer Posted:
April 15, 2007 |
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This industry trend is the result of EPA regulations
and the need to develop on-board diagnostics systems
to manage emissions controls. The short-term impact
is in the required level of training. The range
of technology used in each truck, regardless of
its manufacturer, makes it difficult for any untrained
mechanic to work on the equipment.
excerpt
from Jeff Winner, National Service Manager,
Komatsu Forklift U.S.A, in Diagnostic Software.
To read his full response, click
here.
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| Member
Type: Manufacturer Posted:
April 15, 2007 |
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The importance of training is substantially greater
with these new EPA-compliant products because
the troubleshooting is more comprehensive and
the technician must have more knowledge. General
diagnostic equipment can read the EPA codes but
won't give access to any additional manufacturer
restrictions, so these new trucks do make it more
difficult for dealers to work on another brand.
But it's not impossible. As the industry evolves
over time, competitive equipment will become easier
to work on.
excerpt
from Jeff Powell, Vice President of Product
Support, Komatsu Forklift U.S.A. in Diagnostic
Software. To read
his full response, click
here.
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| Member Type: Disitributor Posted: March 25, 2008 |
As a service technician with almost 40 years in this field, I find it a more
than a little aggravating to walk into a customer with a mixed fleet, and to
have to tell them I don't have access to service data or equipment on some
of their equipment. The trend among end users has been to take competitive
bids at each purchase, and then to contract service with whomever they most
trust. Now I'm having to advise my customers of a new variable. They
should buy the equipment from the dealer they trust regardless of cost, or
else they will have to do business with several or many dealers for service.
This will definately harm the small equipment dealer, as much of our income
is from service. It also harms the reputation of the mechanic, at least in
the short term, until customers come to the understanding of the changes in
the market place.
The inablility to even purchase software and cables, at ANY price from some
manufacturers, may hurt their reputation as well.
I believe that if the industry does not come together with some sort of
standard soon, all may suffer, with customers keeping older trucks longer,
and buying used equipment. EPA regs. aside, if auto mfg. can standardise,
why can't we? |
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